Overview of Questions | Answers | References
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On this page, I collect some astronomy questions for dummies like me (I am a permanent beginner...). Please note that while many astronomy hobbyists may laugh at some of the questions and answers, people new to astronomy might be grateful that at least a few of their own questions will be/are dealt with...
See also Quick & Dirty Astronomy Glossary
The magnification of a telescope is calculated from the ratio of the focal length of the telescope and the focal length of the eyepiece:
Example Heritage 100P (focal length 400 mm) with 10 mm eyepiece: 400 mm / 10 mm = 40 x
The minimum useful magnification is defined as follows: the exit pupil of the telescope and the eye pupil are the same size, so no light is lost. Depending on the source, values between 5 mm and 8 mm are used for the eye pupil, the typical value that is used is, however, 7 mm.
The minimum useful magnification (normal magnification) is determined by the size of the exit pupil:
The maximum practical visual power / useful magnification of a telescope is defined by the fact that the resolutions of the telescope and the eye match. It is the highest magnification at which there is still a gain in detail. Beyond that no further details become visible and one speaks of an "empty magnification." In addition, the exit pupil has a size of exactly 0.5 mm at this magnification.
The maximum practical visual power / useful magnification depends essentially on the aperture of the telescope (primary mirror diameter or the lens aperture):
X amounts to:
Examples: Heritage 100P (Newton) > 150 x, Skymax-102 (Maksutov-Cassegrain) > 204 x
Stoyan (Deep Sky Reiseführer) speaks of the "beneficial" visual power, at which the airy disk is still not resolved and at which the magnitude limit of the telescope is reached. It is calculated as:
This corresponds more or less to a factor X of 1.5 (exact: 1.43) in the first formula of this question.
For small-scale deep sky objects Stoyan (Deep Sky Reiseführer) proposes to go far beyond the beneficial visual power up to the maximum visual power, which is twice as high as the beneficial visual power (about 3 x the aperture value). Depending on the telescope type and the seeing (air turbulence), this is, however, not always possible. Smaller telescopes reach their maximum visual power easier because it is lower than that of large telescopes and thus, the seeing has less influence.
For small-scale deep sky objects Stoyan (Deep Sky Reiseführer) proposes to go far beyond the beneficial visual power up to the maximum visual power. For details see Maximum Magnification.
Seeing causes details below a certain size to be blurred. The higher the magnification, the closer you get to this range. In most areas of Germany, the best magnification you can use is about 150-200 times (I also found values of 180 and 200 on the Internet). Only rarely and only in areas with really good seeing (for example in high mountains) one can go beyond this. (From: Kleiner Ratgeber für den Teleskopkauf von Bernd Leitenberger: www.bernd-leitenberger.de/teleskop-entscheidungshilfe.shtml, adapted and translated)
Normally, resolution is limited to about 1" due to air turbulence in the atmosphere. Only in rare exceptional cases, it is better. Thus, telescopes having an aperture of more than 120 mm* will not produce any real advantage with respect to resolution (Astroshop, Oden).
*) 120 mm seems to refer to Dawes criterion.
Advertisements typically list the aperture and the focal length of telescopes. So, these seem to be the two most important parameters of telescopes. But what is their impact on the perfomance of a telescope. Here I try to answer this question for the aperture. The term aperture refers to the diameter of the opening of a telescope. For mirror telescopes this is either the diameter of the primary mirror or a value that takes care of obstructions that limit the light receiving area.
Solely on the aperture depend:
The aperture is included in:
Advertisements typically list the aperture and the focal length of telescopes. So, these seem to be the two most important parameters of telescopes. But what is their impact on the perfomance of a telescope. Here I try to answer this question for the focal length.
The focal lenght may directly impact the lenght of a telescope:
The focal length also impacts the following parameters:
Resolution (or resolving power) is defined as the ability to separate two closely spaced objects (e.g., binary stars in astronomy). There are two empirically found criteria for this ability:
Usually the resolution is calculated according to empirical formulas, and usually only the resolution according to Dawes is given, because it is considered as more "practical":
As the formulas show, the resolution of the telescope parameters depends only on its aperture (objective/mirror diameter).
An answer to this question would break this page, and moreover, I do not have the experience to provide a useful answer. So I just want to pick out a few things that I've come across:
When I looked into the literature and searched the Internet to answer this question, I found two recommendations based on the exit pupil of eyepieces, one for five, one for three application areas. Starting from these values, you can obtain the focal lengths and magnifications for your telescope(s). Another approach is based on recommendations for the use of magnifications. The magnification is given by the focal length of the telescope and of the eyepiece (see also below) so that the resulting eyepiece focal lengths can be derived from this. I went through all this for my telescopes and already my eyepieces and report on this on page Eyepiece Selection (Focal Length). By the way, if you have, like me, several telescopes, the whole thing becomes a bit difficult, and you have to compromise and / or choose more eyepieces to cover all needs.
And here is another example from "practice"! If you buy a cheap Sky-Watcher telescope, you typically get two eyepieces, one with a focal length of 25 mm as an overview eyepiece, and one with focal length of a 10 mm for details. Sometimes, a Barlow lens is also included,allowing you to achieve a focal length of 5 mm for even more details. Regardless of the quality of the supplied eyepieces and Barlow lens, such a selection of focal lengths (25 mm, 10 mm, 5 mm) appears to make sense, as a table (see there) suggests, in which I applied the above-mentioned recommendations for the use of magnifications to my telescopes as well as to the somewhat "extreme" Celestron C8.
The apparent viewing angle (apparent field of view) is a measure of the angle that an eyepiece shows as a sky section. It depends on the design of the eyepiece and is usually specified by the manufacturer. See the glossary for more information.
Simple eyepieces (waiter, Plössl) have an (apparent) visual angle between 40 and 50 degrees. This appears to be a "view through a tunnel" compared to super-wide angle eyepieces with 100 and more degrees. If you look at the prices for such eyepieces, you can also see that there are hardly any limits to the top.
The dealer telescope service writes: Eyepieces up to 70 ° are very universal
eyepieces and especially suitable for lunar and planetary observation. Eyepieces
from 80 ° facial field are often taken for Deep Sky observation.
It is a vision angle of 70 degrees as "ideal for the human eye".
These eyepieces are significantly cheaper than eyepieces with a greater visual
angle. If it is a bit more, there are eyepieces with an angle of 82 degrees
- which can be purchased between 100 and 200 EUR. It is then unfortunately
really expensive ...
Dobsons: For Dobson telescopes, which have to be manually adjusted, eyepieces with a higher angle of sight can be used because the telescope has to be followed more frequently.
The true field of view determines the size of objects that can be (completely) observed in a telescope. It is calculated from the apparent field of view and the magnification of the telescope according to the eyepiece used:
Examples: Sun and moon correspond to a visual angle of about 0.5 ° (30 '), Jupiter varies between 30 "and 50", and Venus can reach over 1'. Large spherical star clusters can reach 15 '(0.25 °), the Andromeda galaxy is 150' (2.5 °), the Pleyades / Seven Sisters (open start cluster, M 45) are 1.8 ° x 1.2 ° and the Hyades (open star cluster, Mel 25) are even 5 ° x 4 °.
Application: A Plössl eyepiece with 52 ° apparent visual angle has, at a magnification of
I have, however, to admit that my calculations of the true field of view rarely fit exactly in practice. Most of the sky objects appear smaller than expected ...
Eye relief is simply the distance (in millimetres) you need to hold your eye from the outer lens of an eyepiece to see its full field of view. Short eye relief means that you have to hold your eye close to the lens. This is always a problem with lower-cost eyepieces like Plössls, especially when they have short focal length.
Without glasses, 10-20 mm of eye relief is fairly comfortable. But if you need to wear glasses at the eyepiece, look for eyepieces with at least 17-20 mm of eye relief, which are called long eye relief eyepieces.
Even if you don't were glasses, your eyelashes sometimes brush against the
the top lens of an eyepiece and they can leave streaks of eyelash oils that
have to be cleaned off regularly. Here, long eye relief eyepieces also come
to your rescue.
(From Long Eye Relief Eyepieces by Brian Ventrudo, adapted: oneminuteastronomer.com/5820/long-eye-relief-eyepieces/)
The exit pupil determines, how bright the image of a certain object, for example, the moon, will appear in the eye piece. For the same exit pupil it will appear with the same brightness, irrespective of the telescope, its aperture, and its magnification.
If the exit pupil of an eyepiece is too small, objects appear too dim, if it is larger than that of the human eye (>7 mm), only part of the light hits the human eye.
Generally, you can use the exit pupil as a criterion to select appropriate eyepiece focal lengths for one's telescope(s). I did so for my equipment and report it on page Eyepiece Selection (Focal Length Selection).
For more informationen see the Glossary and Telescope Calculations.
I found the following uses for different values of the exit pupil on the Televue Website (adapted and translated):
"Normal Magnification"
"Maximum Magnification"
Furhter recommendations from the Internet:
I found further recommendations, all in all four of them, that suggest, which exit pupil is suitable for which (deep sky) objects / uses. The magnification and the focal length of the eyepiece can then be calculated from this. I consolidated these in my own proposals that I present in tabular format:
Category | Deep Sky Application Area | Exit Pupil (mm) |
Minimum Magnification / Maximum/Large Field of View | Search | 7...10 |
Overview, large-area nebulae | 4.5...5...6 (7) |
|
Normal Magnification | Optimal for large-area, faint nebulae; nebulae, open star clusters | 3.5...4 |
Perceptibility optimal for many objects, e.g. for most galaxies, and mid-size deep sky objects | 2...3 |
|
Maximum Magnification / Maximum Resolution | Actually, the "normal" upper magnification limit... Globular star clusters | 1...1.5 |
With perfect seeing, achieves maximum perceptibility of small, low-contrast details; planetary nebulae, small galaxies; maximum magnification for planets that makes sense | 0.6...0.7...0.8 |
|
Separation of narrow double stars, small planetary nebulae; at the extreme limit of the telescope, to perceive the faintest details | 0.4...0.5 |
I found (and added to... source regrettably unknown...) the following recommendations for the use of magnifications:
In the following table, I apply these recommendations to the Sky-Watcher "kit eyepieces" (with Barlow lens) to my telescopes as well as to the "extreme" Celestron C8 to check to what extent the kit eyepieces represent a good selection of focal lengths. In the left part of the table, I calculate the magnifications for the telescopes and eyepieces. In the right part, I change the approach and check, which eyepiece focal lengths correspond to the recommendations for the use of magnifications for the individual telescopes. The specified eyepiece focal lengths are not always "exactly calculated," but are based on common focal lengths.
Sky-Watcher-Eyepiece/Barlow |
Magnification |
||||||||
Telescope | Focal Length of Telescope |
Focal Length of Eyepiece |
Very Low |
Low |
Medium |
High |
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5 mm |
10 mm |
25 mm |
10-20 x |
30-50 x |
80-100 x |
150-200 x |
|||
Heritage 100P | 400 |
80 |
40 |
16 |
25 |
10 |
4-5 |
---** |
|
Skymax-102 | 1300 |
260 |
130 |
52 |
---* |
25-32 |
12-15 |
6-9 |
|
Explorer 150PDS | 750 |
150 |
75 |
30 |
40 |
16-25 |
7-10 |
4-5 |
|
C8 | 2032 |
406 |
203 |
81 |
---* |
40 |
20-25 |
10-15 |
|
Magnification |
Suitable Focal Lengths of Eyepieces |
*) There are no such "long" eyepieces; **) beyond maximum usable magnification
As you can see from the table, the Sky-Watcher eyepieces, together with a Barlow lens, make up for a suitable choice of focal lengths for the Heritage 100P (if Sky-Watcher would only deliver better eyepieces with its telescopes...). For the Explorer 150PDS the eyepiece focal lengths (25 mm, 10 mm, and 5 mm; here these eyepieces are not included, though) fit quite well, too. The Skymax-102 is also delivered with the 25 mm and the 10 mm eyepieces, but here they do not fit so well.
In general, the use of magnifications can, in addition to using the exit pupil as a criterion, be utilized to select appropriate eyepiece focal lengths for one's telescope(s). I did so for my equipment and report it on page Eyepiece Selection (Focal Length Selection).
If you use a Newtonian or Dobsonian telescope, that is, a reflecting telescope, this is typically the shadow of the secondary mirror that you sometimes see, especially when you look straight into the eyepiece. For me, this effect is the stronger the longer the focal length of the eyepiece is. At a focal length of 25 mm, this effect is quite pronounced for me.
I keep asking myself this question, but I cannot remember the answer. I therefore put the answer together in a table:
∨View /Telescoep > | Refraktor (Linsenteleskop) | Reflektor (Newton-Spiegelteleskop) | Schmidt-Cassegrain, Maksutov-Casegrain, Ritchey-Crétien (Astrograph) | Sucherfernrohr (Linsenfernrohr) |
Direct | The image in the eyepiece is turned 180°, that is, it is upside-down | The image in the eyepiece is turned 180°, that is, it is upside-down | The image in the eyepiece is turned 180°, that is, it is upside-down | The image in the eyepiece is turned 180°, that is, it is upside-down |
Wit Zenit prism/mirror | Typically, a 90° zenit mirror is used, which mirrors the upright image (left and right are reversed) | --- | Typically, a 90° zenit mirror is used, which mirrors the upright image (left and right are reversed) | --- |
With Amici Prism | Upright and correct | --- | Upright and correct | --- |
Source: Orientierung am Teleskop: Bilddarstellung (www.robani.ch/Bilddarstellung.htm)
Pros | Cons |
Impressive contrast and sharpness | Small diameter = less light collected |
Light and transportable (if it is not too large...) | Chromatic aberrations, blurriness if not corrected |
No obstruction, which might deteriorate the light gathering power | Higher price, particularly for larger apertures and elaborate correction of color fringes |
Closed tube = protection against humidity and dust, no thermical deteriorations | Bulky if the refractor is large |
Maintenance and cleaning almost nonexistent |
Sources: Vaonis (vaonis.com/reflector-vs-refractor-telescopes),adapted; astroshop.de (www.astroshop.de/beratung/teleskop/teleskop-wissen/vor-und-nachteile-der-bauarten-im-ueberblick/c,8690), translated and adapted
Pros | Cons |
Good contrast | Optical quality often disappointing (coma aberrations, spherical mirror instead of a parabolic one) |
No chromatic aberrations (colored fringes around stars) | Obstruction (caused by secondary mirror) deteriorates the light gathering power and lowers the contrast in comparison to a refractor |
Large primary mirror = better light collecting capacity | Open tube = high vulnerability to dust, humidity etc., thermal air currents possible, which might impair the imaging |
Relatively low cost | Collimation and mirrors cleaning processes |
Dobson design possible | Bulky and heavy for large apertures (from 8" on ) |
Sources: Vaonis (vaonis.com/reflector-vs-refractor-telescopes), adapted; astroshop.de (www.astroshop.de/beratung/teleskop/teleskop-wissen/vor-und-nachteile-der-bauarten-im-ueberblick/c,8690), translated and adapted
The Dobsonian telescope was introduced by John Dobson in the 1950s and is more or less only used by hobby astronomers. It is a Newton telescope with a simplified mechanical design that is easy to manufacture from readily available components. Dobson's intention was to create a large, portable, low-cost telescope. The optical design is optimized for observing faint, deep-sky objects such as nebulae and galaxies. This type of observation requires a large objective diameter (that is light-gathering power) of relatively short focal length and portability for travel to relatively less light-polluted locations. (After Wikipedia, adapted)
According to Stefan Gotthold (Clear Sky-Blog; translated) "there is only one big difference between a Dobson and the Newtonian telescope, and this is the mount, also called rockerbox. Unlike other telescopes, the Dobsonian has a special mount (azimuthal mount) that does not stand on a tripod. The telescope is moved with a so-called rockerbox and aligned to the sky. The Dobsonian follows in an azimuthal movement and must be rotated in two axes to follow sky objects." In the end, a rockerbox is a special form of an azimuthal mount... So-called mini Dobson telescopes (for example, the Sky-Watcher Heritage 100P or the Heritage P130) have very simple rockerboxes, which, in my opinion, give away many advantages of the Dobsoian rockerboxes...
Advantages and disadvantages of Dobson telescopes at a glance (according to Clear Sky-Blog, Stefan Gotthold, translated and adapted):
Pros | Cons |
Low cost - a lot of aperture for little money | Photography possible only with restrictions |
Transportability | Observation with a Dobsonian telescope not suitable for balconies (except for Mini-Dobsonians) |
Quick setup | Large telescopes are heavy - bulky and heavy for large apertures (from 8" on) |
Tube can be re-used on a parallactical mount | Collimation and mirrors cleaning processes (as with Newtonian telescopes) |
Source: Clear Sky-Blog (Stefan Gotthold): www.clearskyblog.de/2016/03/28/warum-ein-dobson-ein-gutes-einsteigergeraet-aber-nicht-fuer-jeden-geeignet-ist/
Pros | Cons |
Contrast very good | Long cooling down times |
Almost no color aberrations, good correction of image deficits | Higher obstruction (only for scopes from Asia) |
Low obstruction, no diffraction (radiation around bright stars) because no secondary mirror struts | Light loss (because of the limited reflection of the mirrors) |
Closed tube = protection against humidity and dust, no thermical deteriorations | Low aperture ratio > insensitive for light and only usable for bright DSOs |
High magnification due to long focal length > good for planets, moon, sun | Small field of view |
Compact, short tube length (tube shorter than focal length), small apertures are compact and transportable | Large apertures (> 8") are more on the expensive side |
Partly low cost (small apertures) | High weight due to the meniscus lens |
Source: astroshop.de (www.astroshop.de/beratung/teleskop/teleskop-wissen/vor-und-nachteile-der-bauarten-im-ueberblick/c,8690), translated and adapted; Das Maksutov-Teleskop (Alexandra Meier-Badusche): www.astronomie-tagebuch.de/maksutov.php, translated and adapted
Pros | Cons |
Short tube length (tube shorter than focal length) | Long cooling down times |
Closed tube = protection against humidity and dust, no thermical deteriorations | Higher obstruction/secondary mirror than a Newtonian telescope |
Very practical with respect to handling | Light loss (because of the limited reflection of the mirrors) |
Transportable | Small field of view |
The look is always comfortable | Focusing problem (mirror can flip) |
The SC thread allows to attach various accessories | More expensive than a Newtonian telescope of similar aperture |
Tubes with a fork mount are set up fast |
Source: astroshop.de (www.astroshop.de/beratung/teleskop/teleskop-wissen/vor-und-nachteile-der-bauarten-im-ueberblick/c,8690), translated and adapted
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