Digiklemme 1

Introduction | Photos | First Impressions and Experiences | Using Digiklemme 1 | Conclusions | Links

On this page, I present my experiences that I had so far with Digiklemme 1 from Teleskop-Express (Teleskop-Service), a solution to connect a camera to an eyepiece.

 

Introduction

I often use the 1:50 method to take photos of the moon, but holding the camera (one with or without a filter thread ...) to the eyepiece is a wobbly affair, and I often have trouble getting a view without vignetting. The Digiklemme 1 from Teleskop-Express announces itself as the solution to this problem: "The Digiklemme offers an easy to use adaptation that works with most compact digital cameras and most eyepieces for telescopes, spotting scopes, microscopes etc. Each compact digital camera has the 1/4" camera thread needed for this adaptation." But already on the Website the Digiklemme 1 looks more like a "handicraft solution." Nevertheless, I ordered one for myself (the price had dropped a little...) to try it out. On this page, I describe my experiences with Digiklemme 1.

 

Photos

Digiklemme 1 and My Own Supplements

         

Digiklemme 1, all parts

 

Ditto

 

Ditto

   

Figure of Digiklemme 1 on its box

 

The base (camera adjustment bracket) with additional washers from my surplus...

 

This is not used by me...

Adding the Camera...

         

Camera attached to the base

 

Eyepiece clamp attached

 

25 mm eyepiece added

 

 

Eyepiece and camera lens aligned, top view

 

Ditto, closer view

 

Eyepiece and camera lens aligned, side view

At the Telescope...

         

Ricoh GR with Digiklemme 1 at Skymax-102

 

 

Digiklemme 1 with Ricoh GR camera at Skymax-102

 

 

Ditto, side view

 

Digiklemme 1 at the telescope without a camera

 

First Impressions and Experiences

Already on the Technik-Express Website, Digiklemme 1 looks a little bit "adventurous", at least for me, and the idea of a "tinkering solution" comes to my mind. After unpacking Digiklemme 1, you may also start tinkering at once. First of all, you have to unscrew and reassemble a few parts to create a Digiklemme suitable for your own camera. Fortunately, a translation of the manual is also included, because regrettably my English is not sufficient for the English manual. Of course, there is also a lot to be observed on the camera side, which the manual thankfully points out...

My first finding was that I cannot use my higher-quality wide-angle eyepieces because the maximum eyepiece diameter that the clamps can handle is 40 mm... Luckily I kept a 25 mm "Super" eyepiece from Sky-Watcher, while I gave away most of them. Having to take photos with a not so great eyepiece was my first disappointment here...

Because my Ricoh GR sits too low to be able to "see" through the eyepiece undisturbed, it had to be placed on the provided camera attachment spacer. But the supplied screw was too long, so that I was not able to tighten it and fix the camera. I therefore put a rubber and a felt disc underneath so that I was able to fix the camera (see the left photo below).

At the beginning I had mounted the distance axis rod upside down, so that the ring with the two clamping screws was on top and thus, reduced the range fo adjusing the height of the eyepiece - the lens even was slightly too high, so that I had to remove the rubber ring at the bottom and put it on top. But at night, in a hurry, I mounted the rod, just by chance, correctly - and noticed my mistake. As the photos below show, there is enough clearance for the height adjustment when the rod is mounted correctly, and I can attach the two discs below.

         

I put a felt and a rubber disc at the bottom to compensate for the long screw

 

Eyepiece in lowest position, there is sufficient clearance for adjusting the height of the eyepiece

 

Ditto, side view; here you can see the clearance even better

Practice will show, whether it is better to fold down the eyecup or use it as a light protection means. When the eyecup is folded down, the lens is closer to the eyepiece, and less vignetting occurs (see the photos in the bottom row).

 

Noe lens and eyepiece are at about the same height, eyecup folded down

 

Alternative with eyecup used as light protection means - in this vcase, the lens is farther away from the eyepiece

 

Eyecup folded down: The section is larger because the lens is closer to the eyepiece

 

With eyecup, I get a smaller section because the distance between lens and eyepiece is larger

But then there is another problem: Hardly any point-and-shoot camera has the tripod thread on the optical axis. For this reason, it is not only necessary to adjust the height of the camera (lens) and the eyepiece, but also to align the camera and eyepiece at an angle to produce a continuous light path. This may be possible, but I find the whole thing very "fiddly," because the eyepiece and camera have to be loose a little bit, so that you can adjust something. And thus, everything gets out of control again and again, and I have to start anew with the alignment.

Here you can see how far I have to rotate the camera and eyepiece out of the axis to compensate for the fact that the tripod thread is not on the optical axis.

         
 

Ditto, side view, eyecup used for light protection

  Ditto, top view, eyecup folded down
   
  The result of my alignment efforts (for the configuration shown on top) - not quite perfect...

As the manual nicely states: "Initially, it takes a certain amount of skill to align the camera correctly. With practice, however, the build-up will take place very quickly." In any case, I am still in phase 1 (on the first day...)! Let's see for how long...

 

Using Digiklemme 1

In progress

"First Light"

The evening immediately after the arrival of the Digiklemme was certainly not particularly suited to a first test. The moon was hidden behind clouds, and I had removed the camera from the Digiklemme and disassembled it partly. When the moon was suddenly visible again, I hectically assembled and built up my equipment. And, of course, the "view" was not optimal after that. When everything seemed to be OK, and I pressed the shutter release button halfway down, the image suddenly vignetted much more, so that only parts of the moon remained visible. Since the camera measures exposure with working aperture, this means that only a smaller section is available with the aperture eventually used for the photo. Under time pressure, I was not able to adjust the Digiklemme properly. I just "fiddled around" and thus, almost had the condition for my shots, as if I would just hold the camera to the eyepiece... Since I had also forgotten how to activate screen magnification on my Ricoh GR (inthe meatime, I have read the manual...), I had to rely on the sharpness at normal screen size, which did not work out well. Besides, we had almost Full Moon, so the moon looked rather blurred anyway.

All in all, I learned a few things from this first attempt, but I did not get a useful photo. Nevertheless, here are, as a "proof", three samples that are not really sharp:

         

Original in small, unprocessed

 

Ditto

 

Ditto

   

Section, post-processed - 2400 Pixel

 

Section, post-processed - 2400 Pixel

 

Section, post-processed - 2400 Pixel

Small differences in brightness may be caused by clouds.

 

Conclusions

In progress

After the first day and without practical experience with Digiklemme 1, I wonder whether all this could be done more easily. Not in general, I would assume, but if you have an eyepiece with a T-mount thread, you might wonder if you can connect it to cameras that do not have a filter thread. There are solutions for the Sony RX100, where a filter adapter is glued to the front of the lens, but only the filter and not the whole camera has to be held in place by the glue. And the Baader-DT-rings, which can be used to convert the 37 mm thread of the T-Mount adapter to practically any filter size, do not seem to sold any more (I only own the sizes 40.5 mm and 43 mm). I recently ordered a 52 mm adapter ring on the Internet and ist looks and works like a DT ring. In a first test, this worked well for the "bayonet/glue" Lensmate adapter on the Sony RX100 M4, but less so for the "magnetic/glue" MagFilter adapter on the Sony RX100 M1. For the latter, the risk is high that the weight of the camera or hitting it will cause the camera to fall down.

Another question that I have is whether it would be possible to align the camera using another rail mounted to the camera's tripod thread at one end and mounted to the distance axis rod at the other end instead of the camera, so that the optical axis of the camera lies on the center of the distance axis rod. This way, the eyepiece and lens could be aligned with each other more easily. It may be possible that the additional rail would make the whole assembly more unstable, but the alignment should be easier. - I took a closer look at the whole thing and came to the conclusion that this variant is not recommended...

The ultimate question will be, but I can only answer it after enough practical experience with Digitalklemme 1, whether I will actually use it or whether the effort involved does not justify the benefit for me, and I will hold the camera with my hand to the eyepiece again...

 

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03.03.2018